How sharp is Jim Babka after two days of insomnia?
We were scheduled to record. But Jim wasn’t quite ready to do the show we’d planned to do. He was frustrated. He was tired.
You’ll hear the exhaustion in Jim’s voice.
But I found this list. It sounds a bit like stuff you’d hear at an average church. And I couldn’t help wondering what Jim would do with it.
Well, Jim’s mind doesn’t stop. The results are unplanned and unvarnished.
The 16 Things Jesus Never Said is based on a list by Jim Palmer, founder of the Center for Non-Religious Spirituality. The list takes various forms on social media and shows signs of “evolution.” But most of them match a list Palmer himself published.
Religious corruption in Beautitude language
Here are three of the items on the list…
- By this, all men will know you are my disciples, if you have correct theology.
- If you love me, you will regularly attend an approved Bible-teaching church.
- Thy kingdom come, thy will be done in Heaven after the earth goes up in flames and is destroyed.
And Jim ends up taking us into some radical and interesting places…
- That religion exalts murder.
- The time that Jim became a pastor, and how it hurt.
- Why tithing is theft.
- How religion loves hell more than the gospel.
- The flaw of church as a corporation.
Jim also reveals that one of the things on Palmer’s list is a trap, and he has to be careful to avoid it.
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ZAP The State and have a nice day,
Moderator, Gracearchy with Jim Babka
Thank you! As a non-argumentative Calvinist, I whole-heartedly agree on the Johnathan Edwards’ “Sinners In The Hands Of An Angry God” . Much of what is called Calvinism is really hyper-Calvinism: Calvin believed in free – will just as Arminius did. Calvin firmly believed we are made in the image of God ( Johnathan Edward’s Sinners In The Hands seems to deny this) but that it is distorted radically by the Fall. R.C. Sproul normally does a good job of explaining these distinctions.
There is so much to love in what you have presented, that I can’t get into all of it here.
P.S. Jesus said, when giving the parable of the Unforgiving Servant, that those who do not forgive are turned over to tormenters- Personally, I believe the unforgiving are condemned by their own judgement – they do not even meet their own standard. They want to be forgiven, but don’t want to forgive. So they are their own tormentors: Matt. 18: 21 – 35
This whole issue is an issue of balance, and you’ve done well in finding it. I hope you have fully recovered and that all is well with you.
Thanks Penni. I love the pith and completeness of these lines, “…the unforgiving are condemned by their own judgement – they do not even meet their own standard. They want to be forgiven, but don’t want to forgive. So they are their own tormentors.”